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Horrible truth-teller."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/3659832486803082590"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/3659832486803082590"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html?showComment\u003d1256967113557#c3659832486803082590","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Mike Beidler"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/10404666980227401390"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-5892212085562640334","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/5892212085562640334","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2082323856755632979"},"published":{"$t":"2009-09-20T05:31:39.887-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-09-20T05:31:39.887-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Ahhhhhh..... the memories.\nThey taught us all thre..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Ahhhhhh..... the memories.\u003cbr /\u003eThey taught us all three of those things too.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eOzzy,  Kiss (Kings in Satan\u0026#39;s Service), they even told me John Denver was in on it.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eI actually went to a Bob Larson seminar on a lovely Friday night.  I was in 8th grade.  He scared me to death.  Played the Ghostbuster\u0026#39;s theme, turned out all the lights, it was scary.  I smile now though.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eThink of all the good music we missed as a kid."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/2082323856755632979"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/2082323856755632979"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html?showComment\u003d1253439099887#c2082323856755632979","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"FallenAngel"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/14792534468217077571"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-5892212085562640334","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/5892212085562640334","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-9003539708038362424"},"published":{"$t":"2009-09-15T01:03:01.981-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-09-15T01:03:01.981-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I remember Queen's \"Another one bites the dust\" as..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I remember Queen\u0026#39;s \u0026quot;Another one bites the dust\u0026quot; as supposedly saying \u0026quot;We decide to smoke marijuana\u0026quot; when played backward. 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Just think what he could have accomplished had he really sold his soul to the devil!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/9003539708038362424"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/5892212085562640334/comments/default/9003539708038362424"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html?showComment\u003d1252990981981#c9003539708038362424","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tom"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15462218340570164741"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/09/believer-beware.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-5892212085562640334","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/5892212085562640334","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2790331771231733637"},"published":{"$t":"2009-09-05T10:47:24.503-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-09-05T10:47:24.503-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Deep time. No question."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Deep time. No 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about what specifically?"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Believe about what 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what do you believe Vera?"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"So, what do you believe 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hate to admit that I'm black and white on the is..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I hate to admit that I\u0026#39;m black and white on the issue, but my days and nights are spent with people who are on the other side. I\u0026#39;d like the church to begin to see other options."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/7477140509005333471"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/7477140509005333471"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html?showComment\u003d1251038182099#c7477140509005333471","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Vera"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/13088067015467092319"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"17202456219938410457"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2082780538480073214","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/2082780538480073214","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-6576783115819849726"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-23T09:06:19.856-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-23T09:06:19.856-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"The guise of scientists on board really helps hold..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"The guise of scientists on board really helps hold these beliefs. Argument from authority is quite effective, especially when that authority is God and the Bible.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eWhile it is the same ol\u0026#39;, how could it be any different? Aren\u0026#39;t you finding the issue black and white, or are there theistic evolutionary stances that the church should roll in? Is it okay to keep our heads buried to evolution and get on with a faithful life without these \u0026quot;distractions\u0026quot;?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/6576783115819849726"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/6576783115819849726"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html?showComment\u003d1251032779856#c6576783115819849726","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tom"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15462218340570164741"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2082780538480073214","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/2082780538480073214","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4535831418835077954"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-19T07:46:51.052-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-19T07:46:51.052-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I agree."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I agree."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/4535831418835077954"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/4535831418835077954"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html?showComment\u003d1250682411052#c4535831418835077954","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Vera"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/13088067015467092319"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"17202456219938410457"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4019440974852275117","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/4019440974852275117","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-513154408110629087"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-18T23:48:57.753-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-18T23:48:57.753-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I understand. But it is a shame, though. I wish yo..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I understand. But it is a shame, though. I wish you all well."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/513154408110629087"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/513154408110629087"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html?showComment\u003d1250653737753#c513154408110629087","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"RD"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4019440974852275117","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/4019440974852275117","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-6522574063182842423"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-18T22:04:06.074-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-18T22:04:06.074-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"My husband would very likely lose his job were thi..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"My husband would very likely lose his job were this to become known. I\u0026#39;d prefer his job status to be his choice and not mine. There are other family considerations as well, but that\u0026#39;s the biggest one."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/6522574063182842423"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/6522574063182842423"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html?showComment\u003d1250647446074#c6522574063182842423","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Vera"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/13088067015467092319"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"17202456219938410457"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4019440974852275117","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/4019440974852275117","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8558972107224972619"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-18T15:26:52.235-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-18T15:26:52.235-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"But could you tell us why you choose to blog anony..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"But could you tell us why you choose to blog anonymously? I\u0026#39;m sure you\u0026#39;ve got your good reasons, but it seems that blogging is becoming less of a threat to a person\u0026#39;s reputation. I\u0026#39;m just curious about your choice."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/8558972107224972619"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/4019440974852275117/comments/default/8558972107224972619"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html?showComment\u003d1250623612235#c8558972107224972619","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"RD"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/06/pitfalls-of-blogging-anonymously.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4019440974852275117","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/4019440974852275117","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2892460155940560346"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-01T01:48:30.975-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-01T01:48:30.975-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"ID theory is simply an entry-point where a communi..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003cb\u003eID theory is simply an entry-point where a community of scientists and philosophers agree on the foundational principle that things that are designed have a designer. I am not sure how much clearer this can be.\u003c/b\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eFair enough. I thought ID was more than just believing that \u0026quot;if it looks complex that means a designer (really meaning god) did it\u0026quot;. I made the mistake of taking the most evolved or refined ID proponents as representatives of the whole. My mistake. Thanks for clarifying.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e is nothing more subjective than claiming \u0026quot;personal design\u0026quot; (as opposed to impersonal design or natural design, aka evolution) based on \u0026quot;personal common sense\u0026quot;. Again, science does not work that way. In science, bias is not allowed. That is why there are methods to minimize it.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cb\u003eLastly, I would be happy to throw out my \u0026quot;common sense\u0026quot; in the face of the evidence. Fortunately, when it comes to the issues of origin and design, I don\u0026#39;t have to choose between the two - the two coincide.\u003c/b\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eThe point you always seem to miss is that evolution IS the designer. We already have a natural explanation for what you call \u0026quot;design\u0026quot;. Why then do people need to assume a personal designer? Obviously it is not because of a lack in the science. It is all because of the particular religious beliefs. If not, why is Behe doing vespers at church? Why isn\u0026#39;t he researching or presenting the results of his latest work before the scientist that have the knowledge to reproduce and validate it? \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e(Oh yeah, ID produces NO research, NO bio-technological applications, NO scientific papers, nothing of scientific value whatsoever....)\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eEvolutionary science is not based on religiously/personally biased \u0026quot;common sense\u0026quot; but on the overwhelming weight of the evidence and how all of it fits neatly together within the theory. It is an explanation that is able to converge all the evidence we have available. A convergence that your brand of ID/creationism will never be able to do.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eNow, the supposed coincidence of evidence (?) and \u0026quot;common sense\u0026quot; in ID that you assert does not exist. Again, I defer to the experts in the mainstream of the scientific community. The ones that decide to go trough the peer-review process, the ones that do not use churches as PR machines, the ones that fight the validity of scientific ideas within scientific circles, the ones that reproduce and validate the research of others. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eIf the scientific community, whose members are qualified to give informed opinions on these matters, tells us that ID is a evidence-less non-science; what makes people think that pastors (like the ones writing the articles this blog comments on) are any more qualified to assert the opposite?\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eHeck, these authors distort what \u0026quot;survival of the fittest\u0026quot; means and say that humans evolved from chimpanzees. Pretty simple stuff that a google search can easily correct. Sadly, I am not surprised. If they really took the time to understand evolutionary science, they would not be creationists."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/2892460155940560346"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/2892460155940560346"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249105710975#c2892460155940560346","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Alexis"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15413144884615614085"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"10078597320559630693"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2497717754482857255"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-31T19:55:32.838-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-31T19:55:32.838-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Alexis,\n\nYou don't have to pay any attention to my..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Alexis,\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eYou don\u0026#39;t have to pay any attention to my thoughts on Intelligent Design, but Bill Dembski seems to be pretty clear about it: \u0026quot;In biology, intelligent design is a theory of biological origins and development. Its basic claim is that intelligent causes best explain the complex, information-rich structures of biology and that these causes are detectable by the methods of science. In other words, intelligent causation is empirically detectable. . . . Intelligent design provides a platform for Christians of various stripes - including young earth creationists, old-earth creationists, and gap-theorists - \u003ci\u003eto find common ground in making the case for design in nature\u003c/i\u003e\u0026quot; (William Dembski and Sean McDowell, \u003ci\u003eUnderstanding Intelligent Design\u003c/i\u003e, pp. 41, 45). Again, ID is simply a way to \u0026quot;find common ground in making the case for design in nature.\u0026quot;\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eIn this 233 page primer on ID, not once does he insist that anyone who subscribes to ID has to believe anything particular about the geological timescale, the fossil record, etc. Though there may be varying views on these specific issues within the ID community, these individual views are not reflective of the whole movement.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eAgain: ID theory is simply an entry-point where a community of scientists and philosophers agree on the foundational principle that things that are designed have a designer. I am not sure how much clearer this can be.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eLastly, I would be happy to throw out my \u0026quot;common sense\u0026quot; in the face of the evidence. Fortunately, when it comes to the issues of origin and design, I don\u0026#39;t have to choose between the two - the two coincide."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/2497717754482857255"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/2497717754482857255"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249084532838#c2497717754482857255","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Shawn Brace"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/10603380405719498288"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4777026746145906376"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-31T19:27:23.974-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-31T19:27:23.974-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Special creation is necessary if a literal SDA int..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Special creation is necessary if a literal SDA interpretation of the bible is to be perpetuated.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eThe real problem is how special creation does not interface with reality. All we find in nature points away from any special creation of any sort. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eDogma and faith are no substitute for empirical evidence. Where are the articles addressing this issue?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/4777026746145906376"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/2082780538480073214/comments/default/4777026746145906376"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html?showComment\u003d1249082843974#c4777026746145906376","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Alexis"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15413144884615614085"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"10078597320559630693"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world_31.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-2082780538480073214","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/2082780538480073214","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-6776935065497630999"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:45:40.359-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:45:40.359-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thanks for the clarification Shawn. Maybe my confu..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thanks for the clarification Shawn. Maybe my confusion stems from statements made by people like Stephen Mayer, who works at the Discovery Institute. He has stated the following:\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e“Advocates of design who envision a designing intelligence acting discretely at intervals across the geological time scale tend to favor a polyphyletic rather than a monophyletic view of the history of life.” \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eMeyer accepts the geological timescale (who in their right mind couldn\u0026#39;t?). The implications are obvious. So you will have to forgive me for taking the opinion of people from people that \u0026quot;work\u0026quot; at the Discovery Institute as having more weight than yours in regards to this issue.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eFor example:\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e“The ‘Cambrian explosion’ refers to the geologically sudden appearance of many new animal body plans about 530 million years ago. At this time, at least nineteen, and perhaps as many as thirty-five phyla of forty total (Meyer et al. 2003), made their first appearance on earth within a narrow five- to ten-million-year window of geologic time (Bowring et al.1993, 1998a:1, 1998b:40; Kerr 1993; Monastersky 1993; Aris-Brosou \u0026amp; Yang 2003). “ \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eOr:\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e“Then, beginning about 570-565 million years ago (mya), the first complex multicellular organisms appeared in the rock strata, including sponges, cnidarians, and the peculiar Ediacaran biota (Grotzinger et al. 1995). Forty million years later, the Cambrian explosion occurred (Bowring et al. 1993). The emergence of the Ediacaran biota (570 mya), and then to a much greater extent the Cambrian explosion (530 mya), represented steep climbs up the biological complexity gradient.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eMany more examples can be provided from other ID authors if desired.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eNow, if some \u0026quot;cdesign proponentsists\u0026quot; disavow the geologic column (for example) then this particular brand of ID is even more weak than what I originally thought.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eHow can someone, lacking answers to questions of how and when, have the gall to conclude that it all was a he? Give me a break.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eYou state:\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cb\u003eAll ID theorists are saying is that if you come upon a scene where there is apparent design, the logical conclusion is that there is a designer.\u003c/b\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eThe thing is that evolutionary theory explains how \u0026quot;apparent design\u0026quot; can exist without a purposeful designer. Fact: Evolution IS the designer. And to top it, evolution provides answers to the how and the when.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eWhy should we bother with the nebolous, non-predictive, evidence lacking, ID philosophy?\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eI do expect you to throw out your common sense in the face of evidence. Heck, common sense told ancient peoples that the sun revolved around the earth and that our planet was flat. Shawn, common sense and logic can only work effectively inside a verified, factual, reality-based framework. Your subjective opinions have no value whatsoever by themselves. That is why science is the best and only tool we have to know how the universe around us works. Period.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eBy the way: Noticed how ID people like Behe can only find an audience in churches, where people have little to no idea how evolutionary science works? ID is not science. Over at your blog Olorin already demonstrated that. The fact that only religious circles promote it (well at least the parts they like in SDA churches) tells me something."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/6776935065497630999"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/6776935065497630999"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249044340359#c6776935065497630999","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Alexis"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15413144884615614085"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"10078597320559630693"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4686293633202533834"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:04:07.392-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:04:07.392-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Alexis,\n\nI am baffled by your apparent misundersta..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Alexis,\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eI am baffled by your apparent misunderstanding of Intelligent Design. You write that ID and 6 day creation don\u0026#39;t mix, and that for SDAs ID is \u0026quot;dead in the water.\u0026quot; Elsewhere, on my blog, you say that ID is essentially \u0026quot;evolution\u0026quot; with God stepping in every once in a while.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eHave you read anything published by ID theorists? ID and creation science are not at odds whatsoever, nor is Adventism at odds with ID. The goal of ID is to simply recognize that things that show design have a designer. It does not address six day creation and leaves it up to the individual to decide on this. In this sense, it doesn\u0026#39;t even address whether there was a six day creation week, so how can it contradict it? I\u0026#39;m perplexed.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eAt the same time, I have not interacted with any Adventist scientists who are opposed to ID. In fact, when I was an undergraduate at Andrews University, Michael Behe presented a special Friday night Vespers program on ID and his book \u0026quot;Darwin\u0026#39;s Black Box.\u0026quot;\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eTo put it very simply (and at the risk of repeating myself over and over again), ID theory addresses A \u0026amp; B, for example, and creation/Adventist science agrees with ID on A \u0026amp; B. However, creation/Adventist science then goes on to address C, D, E, F, etc., which ID does not address. So if ID and creation science agree on the the claims that ID makes, but then creation science goes on to address more, how can you say that they do not mix?\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eID is simply an \u0026quot;entry point\u0026quot; whereby the scientific community simply recognizes that there \u003ci\u003eis\u003c/i\u003e a Designer. It makes no claims as to \u003ci\u003ehow\u003c/i\u003e the Designer designed; \u003ci\u003ehow long\u003c/i\u003e it took for the Designer to do what he did; \u003ci\u003ewhen\u003c/i\u003e he did it; etc. The only goal of ID theorists is to show that organisms, etc., that show design, have a designer. Nothing more. Nothing less.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eLastly, Vera, you ask: \u0026quot;What kind of supernatural evidence should scientists be willing to follow?\u0026quot; This is also very simple. All ID theorists are saying is that if you come upon a scene where there is apparent design, the logical conclusion is that there is a designer. This is simple logic and it is very intuitive. But Darwinists will not go there because they realize the implications. And they go so far as to do explanatory gymnastics, saying, \u0026quot;Even though X, Y, and Z \u003ci\u003elook\u003c/i\u003e designed, they\u0026#39;re really not.\u0026quot; They, in essence, expect us to throw away our logic, intuition, and common sense, simply because they don\u0026#39;t want to follow the evidence where it leads. And this then takes us out of the realm of legitimate scientific inquiry, instead placing it into the philosophical and metaphysical arena."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4686293633202533834"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4686293633202533834"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249041847392#c4686293633202533834","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Shawn Brace"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/10603380405719498288"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-3049591349139105268"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:02:00.323-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-31T08:02:00.323-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Is there an SDA writer that has really taken the t..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Is there an SDA writer that has really taken the time to understand what evolution entails?\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eHumans did not evolve from chimpanzees.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eHow is it that science is only good if it does not contradict my religious beliefs? Why should science be rejected based on a particular evidence-lacking-faith-based belief? Hasn\u0026#39;t history shown time and time again that it is always religion the one that has to end up conforming to scientific fact?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/1297009388482598428/comments/default/3049591349139105268"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/1297009388482598428/comments/default/3049591349139105268"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-review_30.html?showComment\u003d1249041720323#c3049591349139105268","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Alexis"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15413144884615614085"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"10078597320559630693"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-review_30.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-1297009388482598428","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/1297009388482598428","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4879404202214446059"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-30T21:18:23.802-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-30T21:18:23.802-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"For some reason, people have a hard time accepting..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u003cb\u003eFor some reason, people have a hard time accepting the fact that anyone could study the scientific reasons for/against evolution and study the scientific reasons for/against ID or creation, and conclude that the weight of evidence favors the latter.\u003c/b\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eBecause that is not how science works. Clergy is not qualified to establish scientific facts. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eJust because you conclude that angels pushing down on everything is the best explanation for gravity does not mean it is true or that it deserves serious consideration.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eThe scientific community has addresses all of the \u0026quot;cdesign proponentsists\u0026quot; arguments. People that promote these arguments still don\u0026#39;t do it because they are scientifically valid. They do it because their own religious concepts compels them to. Nothing could be more clear than that.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eIn regards to SDA Church, evolution are ID equally not acceptable. ID and 6 day creation don\u0026#39;t mix. Period. In SDA circles, ID is dead in the water. So, what is the point?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4879404202214446059"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4879404202214446059"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249003103802#c4879404202214446059","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Alexis"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/15413144884615614085"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"10078597320559630693"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-5578617721925182405"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-30T21:05:57.583-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-30T21:05:57.583-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"What you are saying to the average church member i..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"What you are saying to the average church member is this:\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u0026quot;If it contradicts what the church believes, what science tells us cannot be true.\u0026quot;\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eNow, any church member who is interested has the option of doing further research. Should they stick to church-approved sources for their information? What if they don\u0026#39;t?  \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003ePractically, sticking with natural explanations for natural phenomena means that scientists are more or less on the same page. What kind of supernatural evidence should scientists be willing to follow?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/5578617721925182405"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/5578617721925182405"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1249002357583#c5578617721925182405","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Vera"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/13088067015467092319"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$extendedProperty":{"xmlns$gd":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005","name":"OpenSocialUserId","value":"17202456219938410457"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-4999324890769259864"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-29T23:18:21.197-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-29T23:18:21.197-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Shawn; you say, \"On a scholarly or academic level,..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Shawn; you say, \u0026quot;On a scholarly or academic level, however, I\u0026#39;d say that there is plenty of interaction with the ideas of evolution.\u0026quot;\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eNot so.  The only constructive intersection with the ideas of evolution have come from a few biology classes, and those classes are under particularly harsh criticism of late.  Just ask any of the LSU bio professors what the interaction with the ideas of evolution has been like lately."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4999324890769259864"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/4999324890769259864"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1248923901197#c4999324890769259864","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"John Turner"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-6836037437586890647"},"published":{"$t":"2009-07-29T22:30:48.130-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-07-29T22:30:48.130-04:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Doesn't the average church member deserve more? If..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Doesn\u0026#39;t the average church member deserve more? If by this you mean we have to promote the theory of evolution from our pulpits (or even hint at its merits), then you are barking up the wrong tree. But I\u0026#39;m afraid this is the only option you are looking for. For some reason, people have a hard time accepting the fact that anyone could study the scientific reasons for/against evolution and study the scientific reasons for/against ID or creation, and conclude that the weight of evidence favors the latter.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eAnd why does science \u0026quot;by necessity,\u0026quot; have to only deal with the so-called natural? Who told you that? Shouldn\u0026#39;t the agenda of the scientist be to follow the evidence wherever it leads?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/6836037437586890647"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/8354331697790321248/comments/default/6836037437586890647"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html?showComment\u003d1248921048130#c6836037437586890647","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Shawn Brace"},"uri":{"$t":"http://www.blogger.com/profile/10603380405719498288"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http://wishingdoesntmakeitso.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-read-adventist-world.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1344705812001883376.post-8354331697790321248","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1344705812001883376/posts/default/8354331697790321248","type":"text/html"}}]}});